BBG Watch Commentary
It took Greta Van Susteren, a former television news anchor for CNN, Fox News, and NBC News, to get an interview for the Voice of America (VOA) with President Trump after his summit talks with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un. She now freelances pro bono for the Voice of America and has a regular VOA television news program.
The Trump interview is a major achievement for Greta Van Susteren that makes up for the fact that VOA was many minutes behind Russia’s RT and even Germany’s Deutsche Welle (DW) in posting last night Washington-time on its English-language news news website, VOANews.com, the breaking news of the signing of the U.S.-North Korean agreement. Many other media also posted the news before VOA. VOA’s mobile site had the news even later than the regular VOANews.com website.
VOA interviews with U.S. Presidents have been rare in recent years. It was not certain that President Trump would speak to VOA considering the fact that he was called “a fool” and even more derogatory names in VOA programs, compared to Stalin and Mao, and publicly ridiculed by some VOA English News reporters. Both VOA and its Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) parent federal agency are run by officials appointed during the Obama administration, but President Trump has announced the nomination of Michael Pack to replace BBG’s current CEO John F. Lansing.
In the end, it took a well-known media personality outsider and a freelancer like Greta Van Susteren to get the interview for VOA.
In his interview conducted later in the day after the signing of the U.S.-North Korean agreement, President Trump told Ms. Van Susteren: “We’re Going to Denuke North Korea.”
VOA posted Greta Van Susteren’s interview with President Trump at 7:43 AM EDT, June 12. As of 8:55 AM EDT, there were five (5) comments under the interview — all of them positive. It appears that most if not all of them were written by Americans even though VOA’s audience is supposed to be overseas.
It was a well-done interview by Greta Van Susteren. It included a question from her about the human rights situation in North Korea.
SINGAPORE —
President Donald Trump spoke with VOA contributor Greta Van Susteren after his summit talks with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore about what the two discussed and what to expect next.
Van Susteren: What surprised you about Kim Jong Un?
Trump: “Really, he’s got a great personality. He’s a funny guy, he’s very smart, he’s a great negotiator. He loves his people, not that I’m surprised by that, but he loves his people. And I think that we have the start of an amazing deal. We’re going to denuke North Korea. It’s going to start immediately and a lot of other things are happening, including getting the remains back. You know — that’s been — know you’ve been so involved in North Korea, but getting the remains back Greta is so important to so many people. They’ve called me, they wrote me letters, “Please can you do it?” and he’s agreed to do that, thousands of people so — who died in the war — so that’s a big deal.”
Van Susteren: So you put the human rights issue on the table today and he reacted how?
Trump: “Very well. I mean, we obviously were talking about the denuclearization 90 percent of the time, but we put a lot of other things, including human rights were mentioned, getting the remains back were a big factor, in fact we put it in the document, we were able to get that in the document, we got a lot of good things in that document, that was far beyond what anyone thought was going to happen.”
Van Susteren: Give me some behind the scenes, did you issue an ultimatum to him, did he issue an ultimatum to you? What was the back and forth?
Trump: “No, not an ultimatum. We’ve been dealing for three months really and we’ve been dealing through our various representatives including Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who’s done a really fantastic job. So we’ve been dealing for a pretty good period of time and when we met today, we got along right from the beginning. You know for me this is hour number 25. I haven’t been sleeping for 25 hours, it’s been a big long negotiation and I’m very proud of it. It starts a process. You know that could have ended in a war, that could have ended with many millions of people — you know North Korea very well, Seoul has 28 million people, that could have ended up with millions of people dead but we’re gonna end up with a deal.”
Van Susteren: What about our troops? Are they staying in South Korea?
Trump: “Yeah they are going to stay. We didn’t even discuss that, that wasn’t discussed. We are going to get out of the war games that cost so much money. You know where we — cause I think number one, it’s very provocative, and I want to do it, and I think they’re very happy about it because it is so provocative. But it cost a fortune to do it. And we won’t do that as long as we are negotiating in good faith.”
Van Susteren: What brought Kim to the table this time after saber-rattling over decades?
Trump: “Well actually I don’t think there’s been too much saber rattling, prior to me I don’t think, they basically had a silencio attitude – silence – they didn’t want to talk about it and you can’t do that. And I think the initial rhetoric was very important. Frankly, as much as I hated to do it and as much as some people thought I was doing the wrong thing. I think without that, we wouldn’t be here. I also think he really wants to make a deal, he wants to do something. “
Van Susteren: But why?
Trump: “Because he knows that we mean business. I don’t think he felt that in the past. I think in the past, look it was different people, it didn’t work out. But he knows that we want to do business, we have to do business and we will do business. And now we do have — it’s been you know not a long time — although you could say from day one, we’ve been talking about North Korea in a very tough manner. But I think we signed a document today which was far, far greater and more comprehensive than people thought – and nobody thought this was possible.”
Van Susteren: What do you think he thought of you after he left?
Trump: “I think he liked me and I like him. And I understand the past and, you know, nobody has to tell me, he’s a rough guy. He has to be a rough guy or he has been a rough person. But we got along very well. He’s smart, loves his people, he loves his country. He wants a lot of good things and that’s why he’s doing this.”
Van Susteren: “But he’s starved them. He’s been brutal to them. He still loves his people?”
Trump: “Look, he’s doing what he’s seen done, if you look at it. But, I really have to go by today and by yesterday and by a couple of weeks ago because that’s really when this whole thing started. Again, without the rhetoric and without the sanctions — the sanctions were very important — the sanctions are going to remain on until such time as we see, you know, this is going to happen. And we pretty much see that now but the sanctions will remain on until we really start dismantling or dismantle the nuclear weapons.”
Van Susteren: “Because this is Voice of America it will be heard in North Korea by the citizens of DPRK of North Korea. What do you want to say directly to the citizens of North Korea?”
Trump: “Well, I think you have somebody that has a great feeling for them. He wants to do right by them and we got along really well. We had a great chemistry — you understand how I feel about chemistry. It’s very important. I mean, I know people where there is no chemistry no matter what you do you just don’t have it. We had it right from the beginning, I talked about that and I think great things are going to happen for North Korea.”
Van Susteren: “Mr. President, nice to see you. All the way from Washington.”
Trump: “That’s true. It’s been a long time. At some point I’ll be able to go to sleep, I think. You know, get a little rest.”
Van Susteren: “Indeed. Have a safe trip back sir.”
Trump: “Thank you Greta, a great honor.”
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No way to ignore the elephant in the room on this story — VOA would never have gotten this interview had Van Susteren not been with VOA in what is called “contributor” status. That speaks volumes about VOA, which has its own White House correspondents but does not have the weight to obtain an interview unless it’s done by someone, like Van Susteren, who has a background as a TV host for FOX (also MSNBC, but she didn’t last long there). The reality is that this get by Van Susteren won’t do much to persuade regular media that VOA is just one of their own.
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